tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13941312.post6026537457205776292..comments2023-10-08T03:22:15.571-05:00Comments on Tidbits and Treasures: No room for a SaviorBarbarahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15762588867431355249noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13941312.post-54112481470854641922007-04-10T02:20:00.000-05:002007-04-10T02:20:00.000-05:00Barbara, I started this dialogue originally to poi...Barbara, I started this dialogue originally to point out that Christians "being railroaded out of town" while having prayer services in front of the Library of Congress is self-fulfilling prophecy and public prayer is against Jesus' teachings for exactly that reason, in my opinion.<BR/>I also tried to point out that in spite of your claims that society would be better off with religion in publicjayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09705610951280270743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13941312.post-37077358093854676892007-04-09T15:20:00.000-05:002007-04-09T15:20:00.000-05:00Jay, anyone might 'hijack' a religion, but nobody ...Jay, anyone might 'hijack' a religion, but nobody can steal your salvation. <BR/><BR/>I think those who really NEED help should be helped, but my point is that the majority of people on welfare are able-bodied people who could work. I see less fortunate people who try to make ends meet on whatever they can bring in. We have those in our church, which the church does help. I don't see them Barbarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15762588867431355249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13941312.post-62150035428223539482007-04-09T00:09:00.000-05:002007-04-09T00:09:00.000-05:00This is what I'm talking about, Barbara.http://www...This is what I'm talking about, Barbara.<BR/>http://www.crosscurrents.org/Hendricks2005.htmjayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09705610951280270743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13941312.post-68721692483831054192007-04-08T23:57:00.000-05:002007-04-08T23:57:00.000-05:00As I've said several times, my "beef" is that ther...As I've said several times, my "beef" is that there is little of Christ's teachings in the ideology of the "Christian Right". I'm frustrated and angry that my religion has been hijacked by people who think going to church, fighting gay marriage, and praying in front of the Library of Congress is "serving God". Yes, you've definitely hit a sore spot!<BR/><BR/>I'm tired of having to explain that jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09705610951280270743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13941312.post-48178282942360959712007-04-08T16:50:00.000-05:002007-04-08T16:50:00.000-05:00Jay, I haven't figured out your beef yet. You have...Jay, I haven't figured out your beef yet. You have to be a liberal; otherwise, you wouldn't hit on the 'black kids' scenario' - or perhaps you are black.<BR/><BR/>For your information, there was no black kids in my school in the 40's, 5o's - I graduated in 1960. There were no blacks in my grown kids' school, either. They finished in 1986 and 1989. BUT, there were no blacks near, either. During myBarbarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15762588867431355249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13941312.post-18857487274937450052007-04-08T12:02:00.000-05:002007-04-08T12:02:00.000-05:00I'm not Catholic; my point was that there are inna...I'm not Catholic; my point was that there are innapropriate ways of practicing one's religion - why else would anyone celebrate the Stations of the Cross in front of the Library of Congress other than to be "seen of men"?<BR/><BR/>I've wrestled with this but I'm just going to go ahead and say that you prove my point when you talk of practicing religion in school when you were growing up - i.e. jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09705610951280270743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13941312.post-75289418495703412832007-04-04T12:21:00.000-05:002007-04-04T12:21:00.000-05:00Jay, I was thinking of the entire chapter, not jus...Jay, I was thinking of the entire chapter, not just those 2 verses. Hypocrites will do things in order to be rewarded by man. A Christian should not try to be 'seen or heard', but do things for his fellowman, including prayer, without trying to build up self.<BR/><BR/>When one kneels and prays,how do you find the 'crucifixion of Christ' in that? Different people have different convictions, and Barbarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15762588867431355249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13941312.post-78047438463821801612007-04-04T11:55:00.000-05:002007-04-04T11:55:00.000-05:00Barbara,You don't know me, but I have been observi...Barbara,<BR/>You don't know me, but I have been observing your courage to speak on the things of God in a time when that is becoming increasingly unpopular. Everyone will not agree, but it is important that there still be a voice for right in this county. I'll be praying for your ministry here.<BR/>I wanted you to know that today I "tagged" you as a blog that has made me think. Visit over at my Maxinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00040368808197747483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13941312.post-54820586660562150472007-04-04T11:19:00.000-05:002007-04-04T11:19:00.000-05:00Barb, Provocative post! Thanks for your efforts. ...Barb, Provocative post! Thanks for your efforts. I'm participating in the Spring Meme at <A HREF="http://thoughtrenewal.blogspot.com/2007/04/think-spring.html" REL="nofollow">Thought Renewal</A> and have included you as a link for Spring Thinking...thanks for all your work! LynLynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11998346902027037420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13941312.post-8243858554300728292007-04-04T03:13:00.000-05:002007-04-04T03:13:00.000-05:00I really don't see how you can say that Matt 6: 5-...I really don't see how you can say that Matt 6: 5-7 deals with alms. It very clearly states "prayer" and any student can pray at any time, in any school, in the manner set forth by our Savior in the above scripture. What they cannot do is proselytise which is really what is meant by "school prayer".<BR/><BR/>Re-enacting Christ's crucifixion in front of the Library of Congress is confrontational jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09705610951280270743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13941312.post-29386051121409801122007-04-03T13:01:00.000-05:002007-04-03T13:01:00.000-05:00I believe that was a very good blog, Barbara. Nob...I believe that was a very good blog, Barbara. Nobody "claimed that Christianity cannot flourish in our country." And you were not "browbeating people with your faith. <BR/>Obscene parades, disorderly conduct, etc. are allowed, but not Christians praying. I don't believe they are praying to be seen, but for our country, which definitely needs it. Keep up the good work.<BR/><BR/>CathyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13941312.post-80821123742867742722007-04-03T10:47:00.000-05:002007-04-03T10:47:00.000-05:00Jay, I don't know where you've been lately. But, C...Jay, I don't know where you've been lately. But, Christians can't pray in school; yet, muslims are being given time to pray because it's part of their religious practice.<BR/><BR/>I'm not talking about trying to push people into Christianity (browbeating). I'm talking about the freedom to practice your religion is slowly but surely being eroded. Soon, if some have their way, you won't be able Barbarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15762588867431355249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13941312.post-78432962052443728692007-04-03T03:14:00.000-05:002007-04-03T03:14:00.000-05:00Hopefully this won't come off as too harsh, but as...Hopefully this won't come off as too harsh, but as a Christian I feel it necessary to point out a few things. First and foremost any claim that Christianity cannot flourish in this country are blatantly false and no one is being 'railroaded out of town'. As Jesus taght us in Matt 6: 5-7, "And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09705610951280270743noreply@blogger.com